Auckland's Climate Action Plan

No - climate change IS NOT being communicated effectively

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edited on Dec 19, 2018 by Climate Action

Debbie Berry 6 months ago

No because to many people I talk to don't care because they are not educated. The damage that is happening needs to reach these people so they can change their attitudes.

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Fred Smithers 6 months ago

I agree Debbie, many people do not have the time or concern to worry about climate change because they don't understand it, have been misled about how it works (and therefore doubt that it exists) or don't understand the impacts. Other people do understand climate change, but are suffering from cognitive dissonance and hence choose not to care about it. I think we need to move beyond all the negativity and doom and gloom and instead with the empathy find some common ground and emphasise about the positive vision for the future and our children - things like clean and green transport, healthy and sustainable food systems, zero emission healthy buildings... etc!

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

Great idea Fred. Talking positively about the future we need to achieve is a great idea for creating behaviour change. But the Why is also important - understanding how it works, the impacts, and of course, what an individual or whanau can do which I think is the really critical thing. There is a deep truth in the position 'I'm not going to change my behaviour, because my own change won't achieve any great impact to reduce emissions or climate change' obviously that it is deeply somehow true doesn't make it right or good. The challenge this poses is 'how do we move to change as a city or society, to effectively and actively aggregate individual and whanau changes into a socially and scientifically meaningful contribution.' Obviously that's where our local authorities have a huge potential role. Here in Sydney we are unsure if the leadership is there. How about in AKL?

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Fred Smithers 2 months ago

Yes absolutely, the opportunity for collective action is enormous. Leadership on that is absent in my experience, possibly because the local government doesn't want to be seen to be condoning this sort of thing? Unfortunately CC concern and climate change is not a 'norm' yet (possibly still seen as the domain of 'greenie extremists' ). Or at least not enough of a norm for government to condone community activism on it

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

Kia ora Debbie. The answer today is the IPCC's SRI.5 report. I agree with you in that I think globally the UN has really struggled to move beyond trying to make the science speak conclusively (which in a sense they were forced to do by the nay-sayers and deniers) - science might convince scientists but it rarely if ever speaks to a broader public. SR1.5 published around the time of the key Katowice meeting really struck a new balance between science and influence.

It does this partly by taking a new stance as the 'voice' - it has moved from trying to tell everyone about the importance of the conclusions, to looking back somewhat objectively at the scientific conclusions and talking about what is known with high, medium, or low confidence, and generally taking the stance of the consumer not the scientist.

We are looking at setting some workshops on SR1.5 over the next few months in MEL/SYD/AKL/WN, to make sure it is getting out there.

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Debbie Berry 2 months ago

I would love to know more about your workshops and possibly lean a hand.

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Shirley Coutts 6 months ago

Its a very complex issue that's hard for the average person to truly understand. We (around the world, not just NZ or Auckland) still haven't found the breakthrough we need to increase the level of awareness and understanding of the general public about this issue.

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Maddie Little 6 months ago

The communication has not effectively achieved making Aucklanders aware that it is everyone's problem. There is still so much disengagement.

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Mandy Osborne 6 months ago

It is hard not feel disheartened with the scale of the problem. It is also hard to visualise human beings changing/sacrificing their ways/lifestyles to help avert the predicted crisis.
So much of the human world is structured around, commerce, materialism and this surely would take generations to re structure

People would rather think about Christmas Shopping than Climate Change.

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

There is a huge potential to re-shape human behaviour, particularly through changing commercial and materialistic norms. For example, fines for drivers of single-occupant cars as has been tested recently, and just not important high emissions vehicles will absolutely change behaviour. Once we acknowledge the only actual driver for not changing are the current commercial powers driving extractive industry, it becomes much easier to frame climate change in terms of whether a person wants or does not want to be a polluter, and the kind of world they want to live in. People don't need to think about climate change, they just need to think about doing less harm themselves to our environment.

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Tim Rainbow 2 months ago

My view is that the building blocks are there but NZ gov can't get past the politicking stage and actually make things happen. The media are pumping extreme views which is overwhelming out positivist abilities. Easy start - subsidise EVs, tax breaks for homes and companies that buy in to local Electricity generation and storage. Prolong Natural gas supply whilst reducing coal and Oil. Accelerate Wind Farm installation and hydro. The rest of the world is moving but that does not get any publicity so why isn't NZ?

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Marcus Palmer 6 months ago

I feel the media give a somewhat one dimension explanation of climate change, it seems that it's cars and cows - or something.
For example:
There must be more detail about who is emitting the most and how we can put pressure on them?
Are there way we can give R&D incentives to people developing clean affordable alternatives?

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

Great ideas Marcus. In NZ our big emitters are agriculture. So if you want to tackle that, FONTERRA is in AKL's CBD, down in the Viaduct, also need to make sure the Minister for Climate Change is supported to include agriculture in the ETS under the new regime. I agree a real R&D incentive scheme would be great, but the fact is we have all the alternatives we need to achieve the change required. Electric cars, electric buses, bikes, feet, heat pumps, water towers and water tanks and water pumps, composting toilets, gardens which are those old things our parents had where they grew food and other things like flowers. Let's all stop pretending we don't have the answers yet. We do. Will more answers be useful yes, but the only challenge remaining in keeping climate change to 1.5 degrees is changing human behaviour.

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Elizabeth Daun 4 months ago

Today I did my own mini survey at birkenhead mall I stopped 25 people and asked them if they were aware of the thawing of the tundra in the north pole . Not one person was aware. I spent approximately an hour explaining in detail what this was about. Everyone I stopped was deeply interested and wanted to know what they might be able to do. This situation shows an epic failure in awareness and demonstrates a total lack of information . Many people asked me for relevant websites. Which I gave them. I basically did this while my daughters organised there school book stationary for the coming year. We have an urgent information problem . This is abundantly clear to me. Not one person was aware how our poles could impact on sealevels and how it would effect life in auckland. This is an epic problem and an utter failure in terms of community awareness. Please contact me if you would like my help . text me on 0204832100

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Paul Winton 3 months ago

Elizabeth this is a great anecdote. Did you literally stand in the middle of the traffic flow and accost people? I'm wondering how one might do this at scale - what would it take for us to have someone in every shopping centre?

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Molly84 4 months ago

Auckland Council is not communicating effectively. There has been little indication from them about their priority for transitioning.

As a local government authority who is tasked with planning and implementing for the future, this seems a failure at a higher level. Auckland Council has both the resources and authority to make changes and communicate the reasoning for those changes to Aucklander's. It can also communicate the level of concern.

This forum gives a indication of the level of concern actually implemented by Auckland Council. Not a great start.

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Anne Nicolson 3 months ago

Actions speak louder than words! The biggest selling car in NZ last year was a truck! Its probably a mistake to assume that if people understand just how dire the situation is they will act. Sometimes it helps to remember that some of the best things in life are free - friendship, fun and family - and these don't use fossil fuel.

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

Nice :) ...The link between understanding and acting is one debated by a few posts in this thread. I'd say if people are clear about the impact they can have by acting, they will be more likely to act. That is different from understanding climate change, and acting because the climate is predicted to change within a certain probability range over a long period of time....
Enough of that, back to my family and some more carbon free time.

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Anne Nicolson 2 months ago

Thanks all true. I guess I was trying to point out that forgoing a flash new truck or other expensive fossil fuelled chunk of plastic doesn't automatically doom one to a life of misery. Quite the contrary I suspect!

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Climate Primate 2 months ago

Absolutely could not agree more. Consumerism and materialism seem to result in the consumption of a lot of materials.

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Jason Mamford 4 weeks ago

You say "the IPCC reported that humanity has only 12 years to prevent catastrophic climate change by limiting greenhouse gas emissions"
That is a lie put out by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who then said "you'd have to have the intelligence of a sea sponge to think it's literal."
The Council should stop trusting what the IPCC says. Carbon dioxide is not at all a problem. Do not spend my ratepayer funds on nonsense science.
By all means build a few sea walls in Missions Bay etc, but do nothing else.

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Andrew Dyson 1 week ago

It is not being communicated effectively because the science continually fails to meet reality. None of the grand predictions have ever come true. The term "the science is settled" is bandied around yet it keeps on changing, and failing to be correct. BTW anyone who says "the science is settled" has failed the first rules of science anyway since any theory should be able to be challenged. People also don't believe it because it has gotten wrapped up in politics. For example what has racial equity go to do with climate change? NOTHING. The idea that tossing resources at people based on race fixing anything to do with the environment is a joke. Its become so poisoned by other issues that it turns off people in droves. Concentrate on the issue. Which is human impact on the environment which is a huge issue even if the temperature never changes at all and the sea never rises a millimeter.

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